i don't know if that makes sense to anyone else or not.tink
Sorry tink, but I just didn't connect with that comment
FWIW, I had a buddy [who, by coincidence is named Buddy, but is no longer my buddy] who met his wife online.
i signed up for a "yahoo personals" account a million years ago and get updates like berserk which i never read.
i never put my picture up and have never subscribed to their "expanded service" where you can actually contact the people that they match you up with.
do these things really work?
i don't know if that makes sense to anyone else or not.tink
Sorry tink, but I just didn't connect with that comment
FWIW, I had a buddy [who, by coincidence is named Buddy, but is no longer my buddy] who met his wife online.
while trinitarians believe that the father, son, and the holy spirit, are god, they also believe that they are distinct persons within the one god.
thus they are able to speak to one another.
so jesus (one person) speaking to the father (another person) in prayer is not a problem.
I don't know if Jesus played with himself or not.?.. Hmm I'll have to think about that one..Good question tho..
Special K
Funny, I thought when I first saw the thread I thought that it read:
"Did Jesus play with himself ?"
Whoops!
Praying to another part of the godhead that you are a part of seems confusing on the surface but then when one thinks that jesus is was a man while he was on earth and that maybe his direct dial up line to the father and holy spirit was cut off because he was a man therefore he had to place a collect call in a sense to be able to reach the father who is of the same godhead that jesus was a part of starts to seem like a plausible explanation so i guess in that guise saying that one third of the godhead who was jesus had to pray to the father even though jesus is god and therefore he is in a sense really praying to himself therefore could make sense
my first post here - - wanted to give my story, too.
raised a jw, stayed in out of fear, painted myself into a corner and currently struggling to get out completely.
i know lots of people would say they don't respect someone who knows they don't want to stay but is staying for other reasons, like family & friends or whatever.
welcome!
this is guest 77. i'm once again having problems 'replying' to posts.
i can't login in.
to avoid waiting for months for technical help as i have in the past, i've decided to try another approach and it worked.
You can use 'dorf' for your next name if this fails you
i am trying to learn as much as i can for my wife's sake.
she has started to attend a kingdom hall.
it's a spanish one.
It appears that you are assuming many things.Joker10
You got mail Joker
i am new to this, and any form of online chat, but reading some of your postings inspired me to write.
i am even unsure how to check responses, but hopefully there will be some and i will learn.. i am completely torn.
i have met the man of my dreams, and was told the other day that we would not work because he was looking to the future and could not imagine putting up a christmas tree and lights in his home.. when we met, i knew he was raised a witness, but he assured me he had not been to meetings in 8 years because he did not "feel it".
Hi Lori, and welcome
Well, he is feeling guilty about his being an inacvtive JW voer the years.
I'd say a good place to start with him is to have him read a book by Raymond Franz; Crisis of Conscience.
You could read it first and then tell him that you found the book very interesting and would like to get his input on it as well after he reads it.
Others will have good suggestions.
Good luck!
some may have seen this 'guide' for the more aggressive jw.
but it's worth a repost for the newbies .
http://www.eel.nu/witnessthis/witnessthis.html.
Did you know the tang of turpentine can effect a child on a sub conscience level?If birthday cake is bad, then birthdays are bad.
And believe me, birthday cake with turpentine is bad.
They'll be begging to stay eight years old forever.
The whole page is just great.
@ shamus,
No, I am not high...
...why, wadda ya got?
.
here's one to get yall started:.
jdub eagerly anticipating the proper food at the proper time......
Hi Frannie,
Is the pic too small even after you click on it to enlarge it?
Otherwise it says:
"Mormons? Sorry, now I'm studying with the Witnesses."
"New lighter cirsper holdtein pils. An easier way to change your life."
Best,
Paul
i am trying to learn as much as i can for my wife's sake.
she has started to attend a kingdom hall.
it's a spanish one.
family_man,
I agree that peacefulpete stated things best.
He has a gift to take the thoughts that I have as well and run them through a 'balance' filter.
Alot of these comments sound like the WT is conspiring with malicious intent. ...I don't think this is consciously done, but is is a self reinforcing cycle. These are not evil people, just unwitting victims of an unhealthy and destructive religion. If you approach this from that angle you will be more successful than attacking the people or it's doctrine. Better to be informed and point out your concerns while asuring her of your love. peacefulpetewell said
i am trying to learn as much as i can for my wife's sake.
she has started to attend a kingdom hall.
it's a spanish one.
They have little respect for husbands who are non-JWs and will put their demands ahead of you and your family's needs....To say that she will have little respect for you if she decides to become a Witness is a lie.Joker
Joker, you must have misunderstood what I meant above when you quoted me. When I say 'they' will have little respect, I am referring to to the ones who are studying with his wife. If he asks his wife to stop letting the JW's come to their house to study with her, the conductor of her study may ask her to then meet in a public place and study, or something sneaky like that. I've seen it done in our congregation more than a few times. Drive by the house, oops, the husband is home. Ok group, lets stop another time when he's not home. Joker, I dare you to deny that this is how a car group operates in field service when one spouse is opposed to the JW's.
there are some things a couple must decide together, there are also some things a person should decide on their own joker
This is true, and I agree. It will be her choice to discuss with the man that she married, and that she took a vow to love and respect, to weigh the pros and cons of being a JW. Or it will be her choice to toss that aside and to accept the WTS as her head rather than her husband, with no weight or consideration given to her husband's opinion.